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		<title>By: links for 2008-07-03 &#171; 個人的な雑記</title>
		<link>http://blog.stealthpuppy.com/deployment/disable-adobe-updater-with-adobe-customization-wizard-8/comment-page-1/#comment-13485</link>
		<dc:creator>links for 2008-07-03 &#171; 個人的な雑記</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] stealthpuppy / Disable Adobe Updater with Adobe Customization Wizard 8 (tags: adobe acrobat update disable updater hacks reader tools) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: What Do You Use For Editing Pictures? - Page 3 - Ej.am Forums</title>
		<link>http://blog.stealthpuppy.com/deployment/disable-adobe-updater-with-adobe-customization-wizard-8/comment-page-1/#comment-12374</link>
		<dc:creator>What Do You Use For Editing Pictures? - Page 3 - Ej.am Forums</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 07:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Posted by JimmY   ( Not CS 3 )    Yeah, Adobe is getting more and more retarded   There&#039;s a page,  Disable Adobe Updater with Adobe Customization Wizard 8 ( Deploying Adobe Reader 8.1 ), that deals with installing the Acrobat Reader without all the junk. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Posted by JimmY   ( Not CS 3 )    Yeah, Adobe is getting more and more retarded   There&#8217;s a page,  Disable Adobe Updater with Adobe Customization Wizard 8 ( Deploying Adobe Reader 8.1 ), that deals with installing the Acrobat Reader without all the junk. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Brendon</title>
		<link>http://blog.stealthpuppy.com/deployment/disable-adobe-updater-with-adobe-customization-wizard-8/comment-page-1/#comment-6693</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 15:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your help, I&#039;ve been creating a basic batch file based silent install setup for my network and your website has been really helpful.   Keep up the v good work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your help, I&#8217;ve been creating a basic batch file based silent install setup for my network and your website has been really helpful.   Keep up the v good work!</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
		<link>http://blog.stealthpuppy.com/deployment/disable-adobe-updater-with-adobe-customization-wizard-8/comment-page-1/#comment-5395</link>
		<dc:creator>Deb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Adobe Updater 5 is driving me crazy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I&#039;ve tried a few of these tips, but nothing is working.  It is taking up 100% of my cpu and it will not stop!!

I&#039;ve tried to shut down the computer and then restart but that doesn&#039;t work..... Could someone out there please help me please !!!

Thanks,  Deb</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Adobe Updater 5 is driving me crazy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br />
I&#8217;ve tried a few of these tips, but nothing is working.  It is taking up 100% of my cpu and it will not stop!!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve tried to shut down the computer and then restart but that doesn&#8217;t work&#8230;.. Could someone out there please help me please !!!</p>
<p>Thanks,  Deb</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
		<link>http://blog.stealthpuppy.com/deployment/disable-adobe-updater-with-adobe-customization-wizard-8/comment-page-1/#comment-3468</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 22:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>add this line to your autoexec.bat
ren C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\Updater5 C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\Updater_NO</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>add this line to your autoexec.bat<br />
ren C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\Updater5 C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\Updater_NO</p>
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		<title>By: Holla</title>
		<link>http://blog.stealthpuppy.com/deployment/disable-adobe-updater-with-adobe-customization-wizard-8/comment-page-1/#comment-3144</link>
		<dc:creator>Holla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 10:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Using some of suggestions in posts I made above cause errors.  It&#039;s probably best to ignore deleting some entries
like...

Aum5_Reader_Cert</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Using some of suggestions in posts I made above cause errors.  It&#8217;s probably best to ignore deleting some entries<br />
like&#8230;</p>
<p>Aum5_Reader_Cert</p>
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		<title>By: Holla</title>
		<link>http://blog.stealthpuppy.com/deployment/disable-adobe-updater-with-adobe-customization-wizard-8/comment-page-1/#comment-3120</link>
		<dc:creator>Holla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 02:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another...

Under &quot;CreateFolder&quot;

AMT	Aum5_rootCert.cer</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another&#8230;</p>
<p>Under &#8220;CreateFolder&#8221;</p>
<p>AMT	Aum5_rootCert.cer</p>
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		<title>By: Holla</title>
		<link>http://blog.stealthpuppy.com/deployment/disable-adobe-updater-with-adobe-customization-wizard-8/comment-page-1/#comment-3119</link>
		<dc:creator>Holla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 02:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This might be ok to remove too.

Under &quot;CustomAction&quot;

AumUnregister	3153	Updater.api_NON_OPT	UnregisterAppWithAUM
AumRegister	3153	Updater.api_NON_OPT	RegisterAppWithAUM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This might be ok to remove too.</p>
<p>Under &#8220;CustomAction&#8221;</p>
<p>AumUnregister	3153	Updater.api_NON_OPT	UnregisterAppWithAUM<br />
AumRegister	3153	Updater.api_NON_OPT	RegisterAppWithAUM</p>
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		<title>By: Holla</title>
		<link>http://blog.stealthpuppy.com/deployment/disable-adobe-updater-with-adobe-customization-wizard-8/comment-page-1/#comment-3118</link>
		<dc:creator>Holla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 02:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The following corresponds to &quot;Aum5_Reader_Cert&quot; under &quot;Component&quot;

Under &quot;DeleteFiles&quot;

AMT_Files	**	AMT	$Aum5_Reader_Cert=2</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The following corresponds to &#8220;Aum5_Reader_Cert&#8221; under &#8220;Component&#8221;</p>
<p>Under &#8220;DeleteFiles&#8221;</p>
<p>AMT_Files	**	AMT	$Aum5_Reader_Cert=2</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Simpson</title>
		<link>http://blog.stealthpuppy.com/deployment/disable-adobe-updater-with-adobe-customization-wizard-8/comment-page-1/#comment-1843</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Simpson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 19:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Update:
After uninstalling and reinstalling without Updater, the form functionality works fine.  It appears to have been an issue with ar-speedup.  I did notice there was a checkbox in ar-speedup for AcroForm, that has other dependent plug-ins (that were not selectable).  But I was unable to &quot;tweak&quot; the install without completely uninstalling.  Reader loads pretty quickly now so I won&#039;t probably bother with ar-speedup.
I&#039;m also not sure what the purpose of the transforms and the MSI file.  I just use a script similar to the .cmd file listed here, with the addition of elimination the fedex printto icon and the much smaller .exe file.
Thanx again, good stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Update:<br />
After uninstalling and reinstalling without Updater, the form functionality works fine.  It appears to have been an issue with ar-speedup.  I did notice there was a checkbox in ar-speedup for AcroForm, that has other dependent plug-ins (that were not selectable).  But I was unable to &#8220;tweak&#8221; the install without completely uninstalling.  Reader loads pretty quickly now so I won&#8217;t probably bother with ar-speedup.<br />
I&#8217;m also not sure what the purpose of the transforms and the MSI file.  I just use a script similar to the .cmd file listed here, with the addition of elimination the fedex printto icon and the much smaller .exe file.<br />
Thanx again, good stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Simpson</title>
		<link>http://blog.stealthpuppy.com/deployment/disable-adobe-updater-with-adobe-customization-wizard-8/comment-page-1/#comment-1836</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Simpson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 16:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This info is great and I love having a slim acrobat reader 8.1 install without updater.  
However I am having using pdf forms now.  Specifically the W-4 form from the IRS.  When I click on a field to fill it out it says:

&quot;The &#039;Updater&#039; plug-in has been removed.  Please re-install Acrobat to continue viewing the current file.&quot;

The file loads ok and is printable, the form is not able to be filled out.  I also ran ar-speedup which prevents a lot of useless plugins from being loaded.  I am about to do a complete uninstall and reinstall with cmd script -speedup to see if that is the culprit, but I was wondering if anyone else was having problems with pdf forms and received the above message and curious what you have done about it, besides installing updater.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This info is great and I love having a slim acrobat reader 8.1 install without updater.<br />
However I am having using pdf forms now.  Specifically the W-4 form from the IRS.  When I click on a field to fill it out it says:</p>
<p>&#8220;The &#8216;Updater&#8217; plug-in has been removed.  Please re-install Acrobat to continue viewing the current file.&#8221;</p>
<p>The file loads ok and is printable, the form is not able to be filled out.  I also ran ar-speedup which prevents a lot of useless plugins from being loaded.  I am about to do a complete uninstall and reinstall with cmd script -speedup to see if that is the culprit, but I was wondering if anyone else was having problems with pdf forms and received the above message and curious what you have done about it, besides installing updater.</p>
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		<title>By: David L. aka alphonse</title>
		<link>http://blog.stealthpuppy.com/deployment/disable-adobe-updater-with-adobe-customization-wizard-8/comment-page-1/#comment-1474</link>
		<dc:creator>David L. aka alphonse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 08:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Subj: Disabling Auto Updater with Adobe Customization
wizard 8.
Removed &amp; cleaned out thoroughly the original installation that was using 100% cpu power.
Followed the procedure given on this page -
per courtesy stealthpuppy.com&gt;blog
Works great - no cpu hogging (hope it remains that way)
The Updater is gone! That&#039;s the main thing.
The original Adobe install used about 125+ mb.
Now, it&#039;s about 85 mb.
Great stuff.
Thanks and regards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Subj: Disabling Auto Updater with Adobe Customization<br />
wizard 8.<br />
Removed &amp; cleaned out thoroughly the original installation that was using 100% cpu power.<br />
Followed the procedure given on this page -<br />
per courtesy stealthpuppy.com&gt;blog<br />
Works great &#8211; no cpu hogging (hope it remains that way)<br />
The Updater is gone! That&#8217;s the main thing.<br />
The original Adobe install used about 125+ mb.<br />
Now, it&#8217;s about 85 mb.<br />
Great stuff.<br />
Thanks and regards.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Parker</title>
		<link>http://blog.stealthpuppy.com/deployment/disable-adobe-updater-with-adobe-customization-wizard-8/comment-page-1/#comment-1445</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Parker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 18:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes the Customisation Wizard can also be used for Acrobat 8 Pro, see the instructions here for which tables to drop to stop Updater from being installed: http://blog.stealthpuppy.com/deployment/deploying-adobe-reader-81</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes the Customisation Wizard can also be used for Acrobat 8 Pro, see the instructions here for which tables to drop to stop Updater from being installed: <a href="http://blog.stealthpuppy.com/deployment/deploying-adobe-reader-81" rel="nofollow">http://blog.stealthpuppy.com/deployment/deploying-adobe-reader-81</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bill Griggs</title>
		<link>http://blog.stealthpuppy.com/deployment/disable-adobe-updater-with-adobe-customization-wizard-8/comment-page-1/#comment-1421</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Griggs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 02:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will this also work for Acrobat 8 Pro?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will this also work for Acrobat 8 Pro?</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Parker</title>
		<link>http://blog.stealthpuppy.com/deployment/disable-adobe-updater-with-adobe-customization-wizard-8/comment-page-1/#comment-1358</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Parker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 09:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great to hear it&#039;s worked for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great to hear it&#8217;s worked for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Alison</title>
		<link>http://blog.stealthpuppy.com/deployment/disable-adobe-updater-with-adobe-customization-wizard-8/comment-page-1/#comment-1310</link>
		<dc:creator>Alison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 21:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, thank you!  I just used the remove Updater 5 and it worked perfectly with 8.1.

Just one note: I used it on another machine that had 8.0 on it.  It patched 8.0 to 8.1 then forced a restart (no prompts).  After running again it removed the updater.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, thank you!  I just used the remove Updater 5 and it worked perfectly with 8.1.</p>
<p>Just one note: I used it on another machine that had 8.0 on it.  It patched 8.0 to 8.1 then forced a restart (no prompts).  After running again it removed the updater.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Parker</title>
		<link>http://blog.stealthpuppy.com/deployment/disable-adobe-updater-with-adobe-customization-wizard-8/comment-page-1/#comment-1204</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Parker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 11:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Paul, have you tried removing Adobe Reader completely and then reinstall using my transform files? The transform files will stop Updater from being installed at all so you won&#039;t have that issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Paul, have you tried removing Adobe Reader completely and then reinstall using my transform files? The transform files will stop Updater from being installed at all so you won&#8217;t have that issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Wright</title>
		<link>http://blog.stealthpuppy.com/deployment/disable-adobe-updater-with-adobe-customization-wizard-8/comment-page-1/#comment-1131</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 11:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul, have you found a solution yet to disable Adobe Updater? I have tried all sorts of approaches to kill it but it keeps reappearing like the Alien and gobbling up processor power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul, have you found a solution yet to disable Adobe Updater? I have tried all sorts of approaches to kill it but it keeps reappearing like the Alien and gobbling up processor power.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Byrley</title>
		<link>http://blog.stealthpuppy.com/deployment/disable-adobe-updater-with-adobe-customization-wizard-8/comment-page-1/#comment-190</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Byrley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 14:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adobe Updater seems to be stealing 100% of processor for lengthy periods of time.  I have had to power down to stop it.  Your solutions don&#039;t seem to address my problem.  Am I missing something or do you have a suggestion?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adobe Updater seems to be stealing 100% of processor for lengthy periods of time.  I have had to power down to stop it.  Your solutions don&#8217;t seem to address my problem.  Am I missing something or do you have a suggestion?</p>
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		<title>By: stealthpuppy.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Deploying Adobe Reader 8.1</title>
		<link>http://blog.stealthpuppy.com/deployment/disable-adobe-updater-with-adobe-customization-wizard-8/comment-page-1/#comment-68</link>
		<dc:creator>stealthpuppy.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Deploying Adobe Reader 8.1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 15:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] such as Adobe Updater and Beyond Acrobat, will require creating new transforms files with the Adobe Customization Wizard 8. The existing transform files that you may have downloaded from here or created yourself will need [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] such as Adobe Updater and Beyond Acrobat, will require creating new transforms files with the Adobe Customization Wizard 8. The existing transform files that you may have downloaded from here or created yourself will need [...]</p>
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		<title>By: stealthpuppy.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Adobe Reader 8.1 Released</title>
		<link>http://blog.stealthpuppy.com/deployment/disable-adobe-updater-with-adobe-customization-wizard-8/comment-page-1/#comment-65</link>
		<dc:creator>stealthpuppy.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Adobe Reader 8.1 Released</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 06:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] update my Adobe Reader deployment tools as soon as I can, however I don&#8217;t see any reason why my existing transform files won&#8217;t work with this version. If you are looking to download the latest version here is the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] update my Adobe Reader deployment tools as soon as I can, however I don&#8217;t see any reason why my existing transform files won&#8217;t work with this version. If you are looking to download the latest version here is the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: the back room tech Deploy Adobe Reader 8 &#171;</title>
		<link>http://blog.stealthpuppy.com/deployment/disable-adobe-updater-with-adobe-customization-wizard-8/comment-page-1/#comment-19</link>
		<dc:creator>the back room tech Deploy Adobe Reader 8 &#171;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 01:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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